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Cost of flying in Indonesia 
16th-Aug-2015 01:12 pm
One thing that struck me about Indonesia is how cheap flying is here. I've flown about 10 times in the last 10 days - the average flight is about 1.5-2 hours. Here is an example of a flight I just took today - Jakarta - Bali (1.5 hours, ~ 1,000 km):

The ticket was bought 2 days before the flight and cost $75. SEVENTY FIVE DOLLARS, Karl! It was not a special price or anything - I simply picked the time that worked for me (there is probably a flight leaving every hour on this route). This works out to roughly $50 per hought of flight time (including luggage).  I wonder how that compares to US / EU air costs (does NY - CHI flight normally cost $90)?

Now - I suspect that the government is actively encouraging low cost airlines because the country is extremely large with no real way of getting around other than air (it occupies an area roughly the size of the US but spread over thousands of islands and no highways outside of metro areas). Labor costs are obviously markedly lower here (which accounts for 35% of US airline industry) - but still, I doubt that you can buy a regular air ticket in US/Europe for $50-$60 per hour of flight time (all-in price, no dastardly fees).

Something I hope the West can learn.
16th-Aug-2015 10:58 am (UTC)
Not the best timing for this praise of the Indonesian air industry, given the latest news...
16th-Aug-2015 11:34 am (UTC)
True, but then again it's not like I praised their safety record (which I simply don't know the figures for - which would be accident rate per million takeoffs).

On the other hand, when the pilot we met told us that he had two whole years of flight school in Indonesia before flying the plane, it did sound a bit spooky.

16th-Aug-2015 05:28 pm (UTC)
You can fly in europe for $50/hour of flight time. I did it twice in July.
16th-Aug-2015 06:17 pm (UTC)
1. EU lowcoster pricing is very variable. Ie you can indeed fly very cheaply but it's not consistent. Here you can reasonably expect to buy a ticket a day before at this price level (and have wide selection of flight times - not 6am only).

2. Some lowcosters fuck you with fees - so you have to be on your guard all the time against them (which I hate)

3. That said EU safety record is much better - that's something they do have to improve on.
16th-Aug-2015 05:44 pm (UTC)

Dude. The worst domestic safety record possibily outside some African countries is the price of such encouragement. You'd rather pay more, trust me.
One day ask me about my experience staying overnight in a boarding house provided by an Indonesian airline for a connection they missed, and about my experience returning from Burma to Bangkok on AirAsia nearly under civil arrest. Consider yourself lucky you MERELY paid little.

16th-Aug-2015 06:21 pm (UTC)
Many other countries have much more expensive airfare and higher crash stats. I'd like to think that cheap and safe airfare is possible.
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